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- From: mart4372@mach1.wlu.ca (Reg Martin)
- Subject: Re: New Press Release!
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- Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 23:49:40 GMT
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- Jolyon Ralph (jralph@cix.compulink.co.uk) wrote:
- : > I think a much smarter move would be to simply include a PCI slot as
- : > standard so that people could go downtown to the 7-11 and select their
- : > own PCI graphics card.
- :
- : .. and bang goes any incentive for publishers to develop new software to
- : take advantage of new hardware. If it isn't fitted as standard, no-one
- : will use it...
-
- If that were true then we wouldn't have CyberGraphx at all. I understand
- your point, and you'd be right in saying that CG isn't supported by
- everybody, but I blame that more on the cost of Zorro graphics cards
- than anything else. When you consider how much people pay for the
- cheapest of Amigas, I don't think too many people would hesitate in
- buying themselves a $70 PCI graphics card.
-
- : (and a motherboard SVGA chipset will work out cheaper than
- : a PCI card and associoated slot and other necessary electronics, etc..)
-
- This I would find difficult to believe... Of course neither of us
- (I'm assuming) has any real means of proving it one way or the other so...
-
- : > I'm sure that PhaseV would be happy to write
- : > CyberGraphx drivers for a few of the popular PCI cards...
- :
- : Would it not be better, financially, for PhaseV to do exactly the
- : opposite? Write one driver for one speicific card, and make everyone buy
- : the card and driver from them. They'd make more money that way. (I'm not
- : saying this is likely. They did, after all, release CyberGraphX for some
- : other gfx boards, something they need not have done.)
-
- I doubt it would be that much better for PhaseV. I don't know a whole
- lot about writing CG drivers, but I don't imagine it's that difficult
- for them to write extra drivers due to the similarity between SVGA
- cards... I have a feeling that I'm not the only person who would
- refuse to buy a computer that had the graphics on the motherboard.
- I really don't like a computer company dictating exactly what card
- I should have, and I also don't like buying a computer and not knowing
- if I'll ever be able to upgrade the graphics. That kind of integration
- and short-sightedness is a big part of the reason why Amigas are so
- far behind today IMO. I don't want another AGA scenario.
-
- : My only criticism of CyberGraphX is that there is no way for third
- : parties to write CyberGraphX drivers for their own products. If you want
- : your GFX card supported by CyberGraphX then it is entirely up to PhaseV
- : as to whether they will bother to write a driver or not.
- :
- : I understand they have legitimate commercial considerations, but if
- : CyberGraphX is going to be the retargetable graphics system for the
- : future Amigas (and I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be) it MUST be
- : opened up so that ANYONE can write CyberGraphX drivers for their
- : favourite PCI cards.
-
- Very good point. Although as a user of CG I have a few more criticisms
- than that. ;)
-
- : Of course, if the SVGA chipset was fitted as standard to the motherboard
- : and PhaseV wrote drivers for that (which were included with the OS), the
- : need for plenty of third-party drivers for other cards would not be as
- : great...
-
- Of course, if the SVGA chipset was fitted as standard to the motherboard,
- only kooks would buy it. :)
-
- I may be in the minority when it comes to Amiga users, but I for one
- try to purchase a computer that will be able to suit me past next
- Tuesday. The 4000/030 I bought nearly 3 years ago has done a terrible
- job of staying contemporary simply because it uses non-standard parts,
- which makes it extremely expensive to upgrade. I don't trust AT
- enough to bet my computer on their success, and their willingness to
- offer frequent (ie every 6 months -- and yes I know that's impossible),
- and at-least-as-cheap-as-off-the-shelf graphics upgrades. Do you?
-
- Reg Martin
-